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these figures in 2008 mean in the figures for today. let's say obama gets again 80% of the minority vote. let's say it again, to actually be competitive in this race, it would have to go up 18 points in this election. that turnout does not change despite the shift in eligibility. 26% as you can see on this chart. it is now based on a recent poll that came out. i think it is the gold standard for polls. no offense to anyone else in the room who had their own poll. they do it right and they have a 3000 person sample. it is pretty reliable stuff. they give you a lot of interesting demographic rates. this shows among likely voters that obama is leading by eight a point. if you look the averages, that is high relative to the average. the averages from about four points. probably up by five points, this is within the averages. the overall topline, look at the black black at the margin, 91 points, that seems identical with obama's margin in 2008. seventy-two among hispanics and it is not that far off. also 22 for romney. what it means is that the idea that obama could get 80% of the minority again i
, obama campaign manager put out a video saying that the koch super pacs was attacking the obama campaign. they talked about a secret money during the ama. obama talked about super -- secret super pacs money, and allow the press coverage has also may not make distinctions in terminology and in meaning. do you think that politicians and the press corps should be held to a higher level and that? do you see hope that, you know, the fact checking of those terms will be happening or is this the definition of a word that was coined, just shifting of the debate? >> well, i think it is obviously important to distinguish between the two. in part because if you don't distinguish between the two and make a point of saying, you know, more than half the spending or however much it is is coming from groups that don't disclose their donors. the demand for disclosure is not going to grow, and we are not going to be able to get anything out of the policy-makers in terms of greater transparency in the system. >> but. >> point about a different kind of labeling. journalism, as it was covering the primaries
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